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	<title>Comments on: Most Attendees at Marina Meeting Oppose Plans; Experts Highlight Risks</title>
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		<title>By: Bruce W.Saunders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce W.Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having visited all corners of Costa Rica over the last 14 years.....I have seen places like Jaco and Tamarindo grown to a point where building was addressed before infrastructure; have we learned anything ??? Is there something wrong with walking down to the beach to watch the sunset and a warm Pacific breeze smells like I just walked by an outhouse !!!
The marina project does have it&#039;s pros and cons but if managed properly could bring an economic surge to an area of Costa Rica that could use some extra jobs and economy.
I do have concerns about the eco affect but a water treatment plant should be built first and anybody found to pollute the water and not respect this beautiful region immediatly expelled fron the area....no warnings; you just had one !!!
Infrastructure should be addressed first; water treatment, better &amp; more electricity development, recycling.... would be more my priority with all boat owners obtaining short rental leases that would be closely monitored.....logged disosal of waste water and sewage.....I do agree that the banana plantations have done alot of damage to the reef in the past; this being far from organic....I enjoy P.V. the way it is but an educated advancement is the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having visited all corners of Costa Rica over the last 14 years&#8230;..I have seen places like Jaco and Tamarindo grown to a point where building was addressed before infrastructure; have we learned anything ??? Is there something wrong with walking down to the beach to watch the sunset and a warm Pacific breeze smells like I just walked by an outhouse !!!<br />
The marina project does have it&#8217;s pros and cons but if managed properly could bring an economic surge to an area of Costa Rica that could use some extra jobs and economy.<br />
I do have concerns about the eco affect but a water treatment plant should be built first and anybody found to pollute the water and not respect this beautiful region immediatly expelled fron the area&#8230;.no warnings; you just had one !!!<br />
Infrastructure should be addressed first; water treatment, better &amp; more electricity development, recycling&#8230;. would be more my priority with all boat owners obtaining short rental leases that would be closely monitored&#8230;..logged disosal of waste water and sewage&#8230;..I do agree that the banana plantations have done alot of damage to the reef in the past; this being far from organic&#8230;.I enjoy P.V. the way it is but an educated advancement is the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 14:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Selva, there is so much hate in you....Relax or take some Prozac!
This area not only belongs to you, sweetie....

Pura Vida</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Selva, there is so much hate in you&#8230;.Relax or take some Prozac!<br />
This area not only belongs to you, sweetie&#8230;.</p>
<p>Pura Vida</p>
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		<title>By: Selva Melody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Selva Melody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 17:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A la MIERDA tu marina, Jan Kalina!!! y todos los demás imbéciles que piensan que ese proyecto va a ayudar a la comunidad. What Puerto viejo needs, among other things, is a water treatment plant and an incorruptible municipality that is not bought out by the first person waving a few measly dollars under their noses. Take your stinking money elsewhere, it would never reach the hands of those who need it anyway, it would only line the pockets of those who already have enough. Has anyone ever heard of SUSTAINABLE development? You should look it up... Try not destroying the natural environment for a change and make programs that will actually HELP and not HINDER the community. So yes, there is a drug problem, specifically crack, which would only increase with easier access provided by a marina and an influx of foreigners who don´t give a second´s thought to their impact on the community. Let´s keep the Caribbean free from all this &quot;first&quot; world &quot;development&quot;, keep it natural and green, not covered in concrete and shopping malls. It´s bad enough as it is with the paved roads and the loads of superficial capitalistic self centered bigots that flood it as is! Go somewhere else, somewhere that has already been &quot;developed&quot; and leave Limón alone!!! And if you don´t like it, jump and bite it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A la MIERDA tu marina, Jan Kalina!!! y todos los demás imbéciles que piensan que ese proyecto va a ayudar a la comunidad. What Puerto viejo needs, among other things, is a water treatment plant and an incorruptible municipality that is not bought out by the first person waving a few measly dollars under their noses. Take your stinking money elsewhere, it would never reach the hands of those who need it anyway, it would only line the pockets of those who already have enough. Has anyone ever heard of SUSTAINABLE development? You should look it up&#8230; Try not destroying the natural environment for a change and make programs that will actually HELP and not HINDER the community. So yes, there is a drug problem, specifically crack, which would only increase with easier access provided by a marina and an influx of foreigners who don´t give a second´s thought to their impact on the community. Let´s keep the Caribbean free from all this &#8220;first&#8221; world &#8220;development&#8221;, keep it natural and green, not covered in concrete and shopping malls. It´s bad enough as it is with the paved roads and the loads of superficial capitalistic self centered bigots that flood it as is! Go somewhere else, somewhere that has already been &#8220;developed&#8221; and leave Limón alone!!! And if you don´t like it, jump and bite it!</p>
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		<title>By: Colinsito</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colinsito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone loves Free Speech until someone expresses it.

....Praise The lord and Pass the Prozac.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone loves Free Speech until someone expresses it.</p>
<p>&#8230;.Praise The lord and Pass the Prozac.</p>
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		<title>By: Editor</title>
		<link>http://www.puertoviejosatellite.com/news/2007/12/12/most-attendees-at-marina-meeting-oppose-plans-experts-highlight-risks/comment-page-1/#comment-255</link>
		<dc:creator>Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting that information Tamanaco -- I think this is good information and a substantive argument. 

You make some excellent points. I just hope that whatever happens, the best result for the community is achieved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting that information Tamanaco &#8212; I think this is good information and a substantive argument. </p>
<p>You make some excellent points. I just hope that whatever happens, the best result for the community is achieved.</p>
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		<title>By: Tamanaco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tamanaco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Puerto viejo satellite has its banner logo with link under the caption &quot;Nos apoyan&quot; that translates to &quot;they support us&quot; on the anti marina website. I am sure PVS can ask to be removed from the list of supporters if they so requested. If they fail to remove PVS can publicly denaunce the site. This would clear any doubts anybody might have on PVS official position on this issue.

Let me be clear, I encourage community envolvement and a respectful informed debate on the issues. Puerto Viejo have  many real and pressing issues that needs to be addressed such as a rising crack and insecurity problem that already affect the community today. The lack of professional schooling and training in the different aspects of tourism and plain customer service is another. All which could be adressed by community involvment and with the help of local business community. However to go back to the potential marina, that is still undergoing its lengthy feasibility and approval process, I do not believe that Puerto Viejo can afford to say no to development that will bring jobs, infrastructure, security, watertreatment processing plants and taxincome for one of the poorest municipality in the country. This without giving up a single inch of national park, or the otherwise environmentally protected areas, that allready encompasses some 89% of the whole Talamanca.  

We live in a changing world and Puerto Viejo is evolving with it. We cannot stop progress nor should we. Puerto Viejo is not a secret anymore. 

The $500 million Isla Moin, a stone throw north of PV, will attract an estimated 83% of all leasure boat traffic on the caribbean seaborder. Their 500 slip marina will be filled with boaters looking for a day trip. Would we rather have them tie up to our floating marina inviting them to spend their day (and money) in PV or just anchor up on our reefs on their way south. To the south Panama is increasing its efforts in bringing tourism to Bocas del Toro and in turn increase boat traffic from the south of our borders. See http://www.nacion.com/ln_ee/2008/julio/15/economia1620692.html

The existence of a marina would also impede drug trafficking by it hosting coast guards, immigration officers and drug enforcement agents.

In addition to the economical and security benefits for the area a marina in PV will bring control to the increasing boat traffic along our beaches and help minimize the potential environmental effects.  

Unfortunately, I feel the postings against the marina are more tainted by bitter social resentment than clearheaded arguments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Puerto viejo satellite has its banner logo with link under the caption &#8220;Nos apoyan&#8221; that translates to &#8220;they support us&#8221; on the anti marina website. I am sure PVS can ask to be removed from the list of supporters if they so requested. If they fail to remove PVS can publicly denaunce the site. This would clear any doubts anybody might have on PVS official position on this issue.</p>
<p>Let me be clear, I encourage community envolvement and a respectful informed debate on the issues. Puerto Viejo have  many real and pressing issues that needs to be addressed such as a rising crack and insecurity problem that already affect the community today. The lack of professional schooling and training in the different aspects of tourism and plain customer service is another. All which could be adressed by community involvment and with the help of local business community. However to go back to the potential marina, that is still undergoing its lengthy feasibility and approval process, I do not believe that Puerto Viejo can afford to say no to development that will bring jobs, infrastructure, security, watertreatment processing plants and taxincome for one of the poorest municipality in the country. This without giving up a single inch of national park, or the otherwise environmentally protected areas, that allready encompasses some 89% of the whole Talamanca.  </p>
<p>We live in a changing world and Puerto Viejo is evolving with it. We cannot stop progress nor should we. Puerto Viejo is not a secret anymore. </p>
<p>The $500 million Isla Moin, a stone throw north of PV, will attract an estimated 83% of all leasure boat traffic on the caribbean seaborder. Their 500 slip marina will be filled with boaters looking for a day trip. Would we rather have them tie up to our floating marina inviting them to spend their day (and money) in PV or just anchor up on our reefs on their way south. To the south Panama is increasing its efforts in bringing tourism to Bocas del Toro and in turn increase boat traffic from the south of our borders. See <a href="http://www.nacion.com/ln_ee/2008/julio/15/economia1620692.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nacion.com/ln_ee/2008/julio/15/economia1620692.html</a></p>
<p>The existence of a marina would also impede drug trafficking by it hosting coast guards, immigration officers and drug enforcement agents.</p>
<p>In addition to the economical and security benefits for the area a marina in PV will bring control to the increasing boat traffic along our beaches and help minimize the potential environmental effects.  </p>
<p>Unfortunately, I feel the postings against the marina are more tainted by bitter social resentment than clearheaded arguments.</p>
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		<title>By: Editor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 04:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salvemos linked to Puerto Viejo Satellite -- I don&#039;t have any control over their website nor has Puerto Viejo Satellite given them any financial or other support other than reporting on their efforts in the news.  

I really don&#039;t get Tamanaco&#039;s second point. So you&#039;re saying that people shouldn&#039;t get involved in their community and their government and try to make positive changes? All I was saying is that the internet is a free place for the exchange of ideas and if the Marina people don&#039;t seem to be winning hearts and minds they can start their own website or do whatever they wish. Or they can ignore public opinion if they don&#039;t care about public support and if they already have the support of the officals needed to move the project forward. 

I just don&#039;t understand why all those who care about the marina issue can&#039;t just stick to debating the issues and instead feel they have to attack the personal integrity of those they disagree with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salvemos linked to Puerto Viejo Satellite &#8212; I don&#8217;t have any control over their website nor has Puerto Viejo Satellite given them any financial or other support other than reporting on their efforts in the news.  </p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t get Tamanaco&#8217;s second point. So you&#8217;re saying that people shouldn&#8217;t get involved in their community and their government and try to make positive changes? All I was saying is that the internet is a free place for the exchange of ideas and if the Marina people don&#8217;t seem to be winning hearts and minds they can start their own website or do whatever they wish. Or they can ignore public opinion if they don&#8217;t care about public support and if they already have the support of the officals needed to move the project forward. </p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t understand why all those who care about the marina issue can&#8217;t just stick to debating the issues and instead feel they have to attack the personal integrity of those they disagree with.</p>
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		<title>By: Tamanaco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tamanaco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite Editor Doug Dosdall&#039;s assurances otherwise, Puerto Viejo Satellite has in fact taken an official position against the marina project. Puerto Viejo Satellite is prominently listed on the anti marina website www.salvemospuertoviejo.com as a sponsor. 

Maybe Editor just forgot. 

Secondly, I want to point out that Costa Rica is a democratic country governed by laws. If the marina project fullfills the legal requirements, set by all applicable governement institutions in order to protect our natural resources and the environment, the marina will have the green light to go ahead. Our personal opinions, no matter what they are, have nothing to do with this strictly legal process. Therefore Marina Ecologica New World have no reason nor obligation to host a &quot;pro-marina&quot; website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite Editor Doug Dosdall&#8217;s assurances otherwise, Puerto Viejo Satellite has in fact taken an official position against the marina project. Puerto Viejo Satellite is prominently listed on the anti marina website <a href="http://www.salvemospuertoviejo.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.salvemospuertoviejo.com</a> as a sponsor. </p>
<p>Maybe Editor just forgot. </p>
<p>Secondly, I want to point out that Costa Rica is a democratic country governed by laws. If the marina project fullfills the legal requirements, set by all applicable governement institutions in order to protect our natural resources and the environment, the marina will have the green light to go ahead. Our personal opinions, no matter what they are, have nothing to do with this strictly legal process. Therefore Marina Ecologica New World have no reason nor obligation to host a &#8220;pro-marina&#8221; website.</p>
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		<title>By: Editor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly, Puerto Viejo Satellite and the Talamanca News have taken no official position on the marina. I have just published all the comments are articles and press that has come in on this issue. The fact the majority of those comments are anti-Marina is simply a function of our readership&#039;s opinions which, being in English, is obviously not representative of the full local community.

Second, I do have a personal opinion that the marina development will NOT benefit locals in the long term and if I have spoken out against it personally in comments it is due to this. Perhaps some of the locals see money and jobs. However, a large corporation coming in to build such a project doesn&#039;t have the commitment to the local community that the current small business owners do. Do you really think a large corporation will get their furniture made locally? Will support local restaurant owners? Will support local businesses making handicrafts? Etc Etc. It will all be imported from Asia no doubt. Sure there will be jobs for locals but will they have a long term commitment to that staff in the same way many of the current employers have?  

Third, the environmental implications are clearly unsettled. There&#039;s been plenty said on this topic already so I won&#039;t repeat it but many locals also agree this project will change the place they love for the worse. 

Fourth, this is an open forum as is the internet in general, supporters of the marina can comment here and have done so, supporters of the marina can put up their own pro-Marina website. I do sometimes resent that because we didn&#039;t grow up there that we&#039;re somehow criticized for expressing our opinions and wanting to make the place we live in what we believe is the best place for everyone. As such, I would personally appreciate people remember that their are human beings behind all these comments and when a comment takes on a negative attack mode, it is hurtful and unneccesary. Why not instead of attacking those who believe the marina is bad for the community do you not argue the issues themselves and give us sound arguments for the marina?

Doug Dosdall
Editor, Talamanca News and Puerto Viejo Satellite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, Puerto Viejo Satellite and the Talamanca News have taken no official position on the marina. I have just published all the comments are articles and press that has come in on this issue. The fact the majority of those comments are anti-Marina is simply a function of our readership&#8217;s opinions which, being in English, is obviously not representative of the full local community.</p>
<p>Second, I do have a personal opinion that the marina development will NOT benefit locals in the long term and if I have spoken out against it personally in comments it is due to this. Perhaps some of the locals see money and jobs. However, a large corporation coming in to build such a project doesn&#8217;t have the commitment to the local community that the current small business owners do. Do you really think a large corporation will get their furniture made locally? Will support local restaurant owners? Will support local businesses making handicrafts? Etc Etc. It will all be imported from Asia no doubt. Sure there will be jobs for locals but will they have a long term commitment to that staff in the same way many of the current employers have?  </p>
<p>Third, the environmental implications are clearly unsettled. There&#8217;s been plenty said on this topic already so I won&#8217;t repeat it but many locals also agree this project will change the place they love for the worse. </p>
<p>Fourth, this is an open forum as is the internet in general, supporters of the marina can comment here and have done so, supporters of the marina can put up their own pro-Marina website. I do sometimes resent that because we didn&#8217;t grow up there that we&#8217;re somehow criticized for expressing our opinions and wanting to make the place we live in what we believe is the best place for everyone. As such, I would personally appreciate people remember that their are human beings behind all these comments and when a comment takes on a negative attack mode, it is hurtful and unneccesary. Why not instead of attacking those who believe the marina is bad for the community do you not argue the issues themselves and give us sound arguments for the marina?</p>
<p>Doug Dosdall<br />
Editor, Talamanca News and Puerto Viejo Satellite.</p>
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		<title>By: Tamanoco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tamanoco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that the folks that are the busiest working against the marina are not the locals but Europeans such as www.salvemosapuertoviejo.com out of Spain and North Americans such as www.puertoviejosatellite.com among others? I guess if you live in Spain or Canada, or run a business built on foreign capital, you can afford yourself the luxury of denying the local Ticos the opportunity to develop and prosper in their own hometown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that the folks that are the busiest working against the marina are not the locals but Europeans such as <a href="http://www.salvemosapuertoviejo.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.salvemosapuertoviejo.com</a> out of Spain and North Americans such as <a href="http://www.puertoviejosatellite.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.puertoviejosatellite.com</a> among others? I guess if you live in Spain or Canada, or run a business built on foreign capital, you can afford yourself the luxury of denying the local Ticos the opportunity to develop and prosper in their own hometown.</p>
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